>>594
To quote myself:
very very annoyed with the pacing in rosario vampire
first two events which should be considered major arcs take place in the protag's first year at the school (10 volumes) but then the entire rest of the manga takes place in the second year (14 volumes), including the big finale arc which is like 6 volumes
just feels like it was very poorly paced in a very obvious way. first arc should have been longer and ended with the end of the first year. second should have been longer and ended with the end of the second year. introduce more friendly monsters along the way even in enemy of the week chapters so when the students of the school "chip in" during the final conflict, it doesn't feel like BS, since like 90% of the students we saw were straight up evil. etc
the art is GREAT, the character designs are GREAT, and the fight scenes are pretty damn good. but man the PACING.

Also Mizore is incredibly sexo and the relationship between her and Kurumu was surprisingly great.
Not sure if I'll ever bother watching the anime again. For context I originally saw the anime like 14 years ago as a little burgeoning wap and had heard that the manga was way better for AGES before finally reading it, which only heightened the disappointment.

>>596
lol @ w33b to wap filter

>>594
Disco Lady, Disco Lady
With the motion, with the motion

Mysterious Girlfriend X
If you've read, it you will know.

>>594
In hindsight, the recently-aired Ave Mujica was a disappointment. Based on how people were talking about it I had assumed it would be "the most dramatic anime ever" "I can't believe they allow this on TV!" and sure there were dramatic parts but it really didn't get all that crazy (rather, some crazy stuff happened, but there were no consequences). And of course that would be the case - it is tied to a gacha game. I really should have known better. I still liked it, but I was expecting a masterpiece.

For manga, it's probably Chainsaw Man Pt. 2. It really is such a shame how it has turned out. The plot is incoherent, I don't give a damn about the characters, and the art is such a decline from the peaks of Fire Punch and Pt 1 (it really was cruel of them to take away all of his assistants). I loved the ending of Pt 1, I loved the two one-shots in between, and I loved the beginning of Pt 2, but after the aquarium it just hasn't been up to snuff.

>>594
Übel Blatt
I was looking forward to the anime, but it felt so… incomplete.

>>594
My biggest disappointment from last year was the anime adaptation of Elf-san wa Yaserarenai. It was fucking awful…. It's a shame, because the manga is really fun and well drawn.

>>639
Somehow this didn't become anywhere as influential as Watamote despite coming out way earlier

If there was one I liked but was soured by disappointment it had to be To Your Eternity. I feel like it should've ended with volume 12 and the modern period be an epilogue. It's a much more natural endpoint following a great climax than going into a school arc.

>>654
You can't really do the patron system either with such a collaborative medium, because even if some eccentric guy with money to burn wanted to give someone money to produce an anime HE thought was worth it it's then a matter of guaranteeing none of the couple dozen other staff members are fuckups

>>649
Its because MGX is way less easily digestible than Watamote is, with its at times cold and mysterious (ha) heroine, the surreal imagery, and the inherent weirdness of the central premise.
Watamote is, by contrast, uncontroversial, and since I don't want to start a flame war I'll leave it at that.

>>640
I'm glad I watched MyGO as it was airing, it was mediocre but at least the threads didn't really treat it as much more than that for the first half of airing. If I'd watched it after all the niwaka praise it probably would've been a huge disappointment, especially when the main source of praise is the badly written drama.

Uzumaki was probably the best recent disappointment as it was as a group. The first episode set some standards that weren't quite met and it's nice that everyone had to go through it aside from the blind.

Bludgeoning Angel OVAs lack the comedic timing the manga had and it’s a shame more don’t just read that

most disappointing anime ive ever seen has to be hellsing 2001, no question about it. me and my partner were watching it and fell in love with almost everything from the first half of the series, but the second half with its anime original stuff was absolutely awful. i felt like my time was wasted with those last few episodes.

>>1005
the music is really great in it and i do prefer the eyes staying red instead of going back to blue at times but i also didnt care for it. really could have been better

Honestly, probably Gundam in general. Over the past two years I've watched

>0079
>Zeta
>ZZ
>Char's Counterattack
>War in the Pocket
>G Gundam

And with the exception of War in the Pocket (which I think is really good) I found them all to be incredibly boring and after years of hearing how great they were I was just left disappointed with the whole thing.

I tried to figure out why when watching G Gundam which is the last one I saw a few months back (it actually put me off anime for a while, haven't watched anything since) and I think it's because there's basically no stakes throughout the show as weird as it sounds. It just feels like the characters are always going to win with nothing really stopping them and all the deaths don't really feel that emotional, I think I only cared for around 4 characters which died in those shows.

In 0079, Zeta and ZZ the main characters are just newtypes meaning they've got special powers to completely invalidate everyone in Gundam fights which sort of means they'll never lose or die. As for G Gundam it was just a parody of Dragonball which I thought I'd enjoy but I just found it incredibly boring as Damon was basically just Goku in a Gundam where the only person who could beat him was Master Asia and that was it, all episodes felt like filler where he needed to train to get stronger and he'd never lose the fight he was training for.

It's why War in the Pocket was my favourite so far. It's just about some guy, one random guy thrown into the mix and you don't know if he's going to make it out or not. He has to pilot that Gundam for his own reasons. It's why the only things I do remember from the other Gundam shows I've listed is when SOMEONE ELSE has to pilot the Gundam because the show becomes unpredictable and thus interesting. Like when Rain would have to pilot Shining Gundam in G Gundam or when Fa was the ONLY pilot on the Argama at the start of ZZ and had to pilot Zeta Gundam during one scene to protect the Argama. Hell, most of ZZ was entertaining at the start because it felt like all the characters were nobodies who were thrown into the war with no skills and had to figure it all out from there.

It's just so much more interesting when the focus isn't on the main character in Gundam or the main character isn't some perfect person. I want to see them lose, I want to see them struggle and I want to see them turn some fight around through an ingenious tactic or in some cases die trying.

I've heard good things about IBO and Turn A so I'll probably give those a shot one day with hopes they'll be good and I can finally enjoy a whole Gundam series but I'm in no rush. It's funny, you'd think I just hate big robots but I actually love Macross and thought the original series and 7 were fantastic.

I can understand not liking ZZ, because I personally dislike how much more superpower-y newtypes feel compared to 0079 and Zeta, but I'm surprised you feel that way about Zeta. War in the Pocket is fantastic, it's my personal favorite as well, but Zeta is my primary preference for how newtypes are depicted. Kamille struggles a lot and situations are never personally resolved by him being a newtype, lots of people die along the way, he has to handle a bunch of shit and get traumatized and then his only reward for becoming a better newtype is becoming a vegetable. I like it as Tomino's exploration of what the next step to humanity would look like, because it rarely feels like it decides that being a newtype is the way to win fights and military engagements, but intertwines it with the different relationships the characters struggle with and having evil mind molesters like Scirocco who contrast against that. It's been a while since I've watched it but I'm also pretty sure there's a handful of engagements in Zeta that aren't victories.

I won't say to return to any of them because Gundam really is a lengthy franchise with a ton to choose from, but I do think you missed the forest for the trees.

>>1009
I truly don't know, honestly, I don't. I really wanted to like it but every time I'd start up an episode I just felt so bored by the first five minutes, drifting in and out of it and by the time the episode was over I could barely recall what happened. I kept on watching with hopes that it would get better, I've watched tons of shows that I didn't vibe with for ages so this felt no different but it just never did for me. I also didn't really care for the politics of the world nor what each side stood for and it's a shame because I like military conflicts and political drama in anime like in LOGH.

Maybe I should watch the compilation movies and see if shortening the whole thing and cutting out the "fluff" into 7 hours might be more enjoyable.

Oh btw, you can click post numbers after the timestamp on the top right of the post to quote them and reply to them. Makes it easier to know who you're talking to if you wanted to reply to more than one poster.

>>1008
I have a good idea where you're coming from with your opinions on the franchise. In short, if you don't like what you've seen so far you won't like most of what comes after.
At first glance it seems to me like you watched the 0079 movies, could you confirm this? I'll write a better response when I wake up in the morning.

>>1008
War in the Pocket is incredibly trite. Its a much more generic narrative than Tomino's Gundam works and it has a hamfisted message it wants to put above good storytelling.

>>1008
I don’t dislike 79 or Zeta but would consider both a 6/10, which upsets many. Despite what people say I actually think the complication movies are better paced and don’t really cut much important and enjoyed those much more, would give those a 7/10. ZZ made me drop the UC timeline, never made it past the 19th episode. War in the Pocket is also my favorite but I didnt enjoy 8th MS Team or Stardust Memory at all, watching those two actually made me appreciate 79 and Zeta more.

>>1011
See I would've assumed so but liking War in the Pocket made me think otherwise. Had I disliked that I would've given up on the franchise entirely. I haven't seen the movies I watched the original series.

>>1012
Eh, fair enough. I enjoyed it more for its unpredictability and underdog feeling over anything else, plus I enjoyed the small cast of characters and singular location for the most part. It felt like the six episodes really gave it time to grow and I appreciated that.

>>1013
Interesting, I gave them all 7's because at the end of the day I could still appreciate the work and effort that went into it and I didn't come out hating them but rather bored by them. They had their moments, cool designs, good music, some funny scenes and several engaging battles and scenes.

>>1014
friend.

Prime Rose. It was my first Tezuka anime not counting Metropolis and it was absolutely mediocre. The animation is laughable and janky even for the time period it was made in, the plot was hastily thrown together and just peters off, and the fanservice wasn’t even that good either. I thought it would be fun but it ended up being tedious.

>>594


This movie sucked ass. I'm coming from the perspective of being a big fan of the manga, and I was already wary when it was announced and KyoAni would be handling it. But man, they really butchered it and it was super disappointing. All of the edges got sanded off in favor of making it a marketable, sanitized romance with some drama. I know the scope of a movie has to be different, so I can accept the side characters being ignored and mischaracterized, but it was still frustrating to see them shifted in favor of a tone that the manga never really had. What they did to the art style was also a shame. Just an utter disappointment in every way. It's not like the manga is incredibly bold and subversive, but I liked that the general relationship between the leads came before the romance, and I liked that the exploration of othering and discrimination was a huge element of that relationship and the story. Then the movie doesn't really deal with that beyond making it feel like a simple, trite conflict in their shared pasts rather than the massive problem that affects both of their lives. It turned something nuanced into slop.

>>1014
>after years of hearing how great they were I was just left disappointed with the whole thing
>I've heard good things about IBO and Turn A so I'll probably give those a shot one day
>I've watched tons of shows that I didn't vibe with for ages so this felt no different but it just never did for me.
To me, this is where the main problem may stem from, without taking any blame off the quality of the shows themselves. Gundam fans really like Gundam, and it'll alter your expectations if you've been constantly exposed to their opinions of how much they love the franchise. IBO and Turn A in particular are some of the most polarizing ones in regards to quality, content, and how viewers vibe with them, and judging by what you say you want to see from Gundam, IBO might be right up your alley.

I've watched plenty of Gundam entries, and even I was disappointed when I realized most of them were kind of mediocre, but I still found something to like about them. I asked you about watching the 0079 movies because in the first movie the newtype concept is introduced early, whereas in the TV series it comes way later and feels like a last minute addition to the story. These small changes often impact the perception of what Amuro is as a character and what newtypes are in the grand scheme of things. I even felt the same as you did when Amuro was revealed as a newtype and was killing off everyone left and right towards the end of the show. What are the stakes now? Isn't he just going to win every fight? But then, he receives his greatest loss yet, one that helps build his character for the rest of the sequels.
0079, Z, ZZ to some extent, CCA, Victory, Turn A, G reco and Hathaway's Flash are all authored by Tomino, and you can expect something a bit different in each one. (Some people really get into them and the ideas that he expresses, some are more into Tomino himself rather than the anime he makes)

WiP, Wing, 00, IBO, and even 0083 could be called underdog stories by some people, but at the end of the day only you can say if it's worth watching or not.
The only Gundam series that I'd advice you to stay away from are Wing, Destiny, Origin, WfM and Narrative.

>>648
Couldn't agree more. I'd love to get into it cause I LOVE the manga buts all animated so stiffly that any jiggle physics just isn't enticing, it's distracting. Love the voice case thought, Satero's voice is one I didn't even know I needed.

>>1064
What the fuck:?!, I posted 5 images and only 2 showed up.

>>1023
I have not seen this or read the manga in a while and they both are heavy with teen melodrama, although the movie more-so. It does feel that this heavy soppy melodrama does overload the more subtle points the manga seemed to be making. I would have preferred it if this story did not go in a romantic direction, or possibly moves in that way but reveals it to be yet another case of miscommunication. What the manga had to say about communication seemed a lot more interesting than the typical anti-bullying narrative in soppy high school melodramas. The suicide scene was totally uncalled for and just shoved in to gouge more tears from the audience. Where the manga and the movie are at their best is seeing the MC struggling to communicate with someone who does not use verbal language and vice versa. Instead we get sidetracked in melodrama. Sure the movie is worse at this, but even those encounter scenes were fascinating to watch. At the end of the day, animation has to be marketed to someone so turning it into a sloppy teen drama makes sense.

without a doubt the 2004 reboot of tetsujin. i had very high expectations after watching the giant robo ova, i loved how it looked and i loved how old school tetsujin and the other mechas/villains looked!!
It started pretty good but as the series went on they weren't able to handle both the main story with the sublots introduced in every new episode, resulting in a messy story without a satisfing ending.
also they glaze the hell out of tetsujin only for it to get wrecked immediately by the new villain's gimmick.
I don't think you shouldn't watch it cause some episodes are really good, but overall it doesn't know what to do with itself.

>>1005
Funny you say that, it's my favorite adaptation of Hellsing despite it's shortcomings. But I do agree the second half is weaker, but you can tell it was meant to be part of a larger story that was cut down when it turned out it wouldn't be renewed for a continuation due to low ratings (hell, there's this early animation sequence that even adapted the Brazil sequence), that's the impression I kinda got from the finale. You can tell Konaka was going to make a much longer story in a similar style to his other works.

>>1067
I actually really liked this adaptation it felt very close to the writing style of Yokoyama in his manga but yes it's nothing alike Giant Robo (and nothing will ever be as good). It's definitely not a show for everyone and probably one of the most story focused Super Robot show since the combat isn't the priority and Shotaro doesn't win a lot. There's also an original movie that is more action focused so maybe give that one a try.

>>1008
I can understand not enjoying Gundam; most shows are flawed with odd pacing, and sometimes it can be hard to understand who is from which faction and what is the overall goal of the show (Gundam Victory). I personally enjoy Gundam from a universe perspective as the shows aren't the most entertaining thing to watch, but there's great world-building and cool characters, mobile suits, and so on (and often an amazing soundtrack, shoutout to Victory once again).
I also understand your hate for Newtype. I didn't like it at first; it felt a bit too sci-fi and convenient for the plot, but I eventually got used to it.

I also would like to say that Gundam ZZ isn't a good show, it's boring, most of the cast is boring, and the only important moment gets ruined by the ending. It's a show where nothing matters, and it just exists to remove everything Zeta created so that Tomino could make his movie sequel to 79. I'm sorry ZZ fans, but to me, the love this show received recently just seems like contrarian revisionism…