>>5834>Why do you [feel] people would want you to shut up?Some people told me so in the past, and I tend to extrapolate observed human behavior instead of being optimistic about the behavior I haven't observed yet. It's not any given community, it's my experience with people in general. Consider it my tiger-horse.
>Most places that allow goreposting are also dead.I'm going to talk about this part in a little more detail. Yes, chans are under significant technical, political, and cultural pressure in 2025, many are dead, dying, or slowing down due to familiarity and fatigue. That's a thing, I won't be denying it. However, there's one and only /kind/ board at the moment (a place where you will be treated nicely, can have a /hug/, and may feel safe to talk about your sleeping habits; a place, in fact, where I can have this open conversation with you and not feel like everything I say will be used against me), and it also happens to be slow; but aside from here and all the /jp/ spin-offs, as you've aptly put it, there's a plethora of various boards on many chans with a total PPH far above 20, whose main content is intentionally unkind.
Wapchan and most of its friendly chans have rules specifically prohibiting those intentionally unkind posts, but the question that gnaws at me is whether:
a) anons who are on these chans are here because they (same as me) want a nice place without the ugly hateful things, or
b) anons avoid posting those things here, because those things are prohibited, but also don't feel motivated to post anything else.
>I can't post it, it's just random slurs, profanity, yelling, screaming and pure conspiracy (after waging).>I can't post it,>can'tObviously, anon across all decades and boards always had his demons, but it was a passing thing back in 2016 or even in 2019. And now? If rules 2 and 3 didn't exist here and Akari didn't watch over us, would it be 3 PPD of /kind/ posts and 300 PPD of random slurs, profanity, yelling, screaming and conspiracy theories? Or still only the 3 PPD of /kind/ that we have now? This is not a statement, this is a question, and I don't actually know the answer to it. However, I still have my usual doubts in humanity and, because of that uncertainty and insecurity, I feel what I feel about rocking the boat and posting too much too often on a slow board.
I am paranoid people can recognize my posts on other sites and will be deanoned in the future
>>5828I just came back from another day of work when I made that post about a literal thread about thoughts (which I jokingly exaggerated). I'm not a retarded gore poster who wants to spam a million slurs on an imageboard I surf almost daily (don't know why you just assumed). Try and actually get a job and not feel that way after months of labor.
>>5832Because forced kindness is just as bad as forced rudeness. It's that simple. It's the main reason why such boards like this aren't "active" enough for your liking. Natural kindness will always be more powerful then forcing people to be kind. Forcing kindness will always lead to less honest posting, too. You need a balance, like all things. Honestly for what /kind/ is, it isn't even that bad. It has a decent balance. Though, the self-loathing posts are the most annoying ones on this board and make me post less.
>>5829^This^, you're just trying to make yet another annoying dull post about the imageboard being slow for the billionth time. SO WHAT? I like it that way. Why does everything have to fast paced slop? Go do something, get some hobbies, CREATE. It'll keep you off this board for a while. And when you come back in a few days, you'll see new posts to respond too.
>>5837Learn to not care. It has as little meaning as you can't imagine.
>>5839>Try and actually get a job and not feel that way after months of labor.>Because forced kindness is just as bad as forced rudeness.>you're just trying to make yet another annoying dull post>SO WHAT? I like it that way. Why does everything have to fast paced slop?>(don't know why you just assumed)Thanks for the live demonstration, I guess?
>>5837Most likely that already happened.
>>5839It was so obvious that you were joking. Every post with that lum image has been unserious. I don't think there's any forced kindness here. To me kindness is something far more radical than not saying slurs. It's lending an ear to struggling friends that need to be heard. It's reaching your hand out to uplift and edify your fellow friend. Something sappy like that. Banning slurs is just the exclusion of the contrary. Not saying them in public is just being relatively ordinary.
I've been on both fast and slow /kind/. I enjoy both, but if we grow in number, it should be done slowly and deliberately with small groups that are well suited to assimilate into this specific board's culture. However, now's not the time or place for that. Winter is a time for waning.
>>5848>It was so obvious that you were joking.Some people obviously can't tell, lol.
>It was so obvious that you were joking. Every post with that lum image has been unserious.
It doesn't matter. The degree of irony in the oekaki post doesn't change the followup in any way, nor does ad absurdum work here, because even the 'joke' isn't so different from reality. You can take it ironically or unironically and the sum of the conversation stays exactly the same: anon tells anon to shut up.
>a place, in fact, where I can have this open conversation with you and not feel like everything I say will be used against me
Oh it will be. Distorted, rearranged, read selectively, and used to derail. Just like everywhere else.
>Some people obviously can't tell, lol.
Classy.
>>5850>It doesn't matterThat's probably why friend takes issue with your posts. The actual reality of what he was trying to convey didn't matter to you. It was just an opportunity for you to make a series of assumptions based on a hasty generalization to push your own pet meta theory about the board. Personally, I wouldn't take issue with any of that besides the generalization, but I can see why the rest might annoy someone.
>anon tells anon to shut upIt's kind of odd how you go on to complain about distorting and rearranging words when this is how you've twisted what buddy actually said.
>used to derailJust like how you used buddy's post to derail into the meta theory lecture you wanted to give. It turns into a meta-meta discussion, and now people want to cry foul.
>Just like everywhere elseMountain out of a molehill, buddy. He actually gave you decent advice, but just in a slightly more coarse way than some would've given it. Ultimately, I like both of you and think you're good guys, so let's be good friends.
>>5836>Wapchan and most of its friendly chans have rules specifically prohibiting those intentionally unkind posts, but the question that gnaws at me is whether:>a) anons who are on these chans are here because they (same as me) want a nice place without the ugly hateful things, or>b) anons avoid posting those things here, because those things are prohibited, but also don't feel motivated to post anything else.This worries me too. So I steer clear from online spaces now and I'm reluctant to post on wap even. The PPD count here is just low and I guess the types that want to hurl insults, slurs, and ramble about vaccines are turned off by slow boards. Then again, you never know what people are really like behind the scenes.
>>5867Even at my lowest, when I was hurling insults, using slurs, and rambling about conspiracies, I still made time to relax and just discuss my hobbies on comfy boards. The kind of person who can only talk that way is probably incredibly rare and likely underage. Yeah, I think people are generally more multifaceted behind the scenes.
>>5939Yep, my experience's been exactly the same. On top of that I usually end up being hated.
>>5939Why can't you just stop trying to meet expectations?
>>5944I don't think people have full access to their decision making processes, lots of people talk about doing things they know are bad for them, or not doing things they know will be good for them. I think it makes sense to assume that they're genuinely correct and it's possible to behave irrationally this way. In the same way, it's not about consciously trying to meet expectations, but that knowing what the expectations are creates a clear path of least resistance where I can get some maximum benefit for some minimum effort. I think knowing that certain choices will lead to certain outcomes weighs on the scale and makes you more likely to choose them, even subconsciously. Over time these little nudges build up and you start to act in a way that is less in line with your own preferences and expectations for yourself, and more in line with the expectations and preferences of other people. It's not possible to just "not do this" because you can't determine even reflectively, the exact magnitude and direction of these nudges, so if you tried to correct some how you would just still be acting in a way contrary to your own preferences, just against other people's preferences. In a sense, this is the pretty common teenage rebellion that isn't actually freedom, but a "rebellion" that still leaves you entirely dependent on what someone else thinks. "My parents don't like these clothes so I'll wear them" still leaves you exactly as subordinate to your parent's taste as "My parents like these clothes so I'll wear them", just with the direction reversed.
>>5945This is a neurotic fixation on control rather than anything about authenticity. If your preferences are malleable and dependent on your environmental conditions to reveal themselves then perhaps they are just that, malleable and conditional, and any claim to authenticity based off of acting on your preferences is as it seems: acting based off of your knowledge of your environment and what you consider to be preferable. There is no way to distill your preferences from your condition, and so there is no authentic prefence to be found.
>>5945This won't help you but I feel obliged to say it anyway. You can't remain authentic if you don't know yourself. When you join a community in search of a place in the world, you know not yourself, and so by nature bound to rub off the community and sooner or later start trying to become the perfect member, accordingly to their beliefs. This is essentially "trying to meet their expectations". Only once you know yourself you can be invulnerable to such things, but that requires a lot of meditation and will training. This will also rely on your self image that is influenced by others, so you must one way or another choose which self image you will be asserting. This is the hardest thing in life. Inconsistent self image cannot be maintained, and building a consistent one with proper regard to your character is no small matter. I'm sorry you have to suffer solitude. I myself am more isolated now than I can handle, so if I don't find an escape I will very likely go insane, maybe even as far as ending my own life, though I cannot say it's probable.
My conviction that I should “do it well or not at all” leads me to burning out of hobbies and interests because I never feel I can do them well or know them well enough. Because of my background, I learned early on that if I did not succeed at something then I was just as good as dead. I have to perfect or feign perfection or become worthless garbage. Because of this perfectionism, I will try something (learning guitar, trying art) and instantly drop it if I feel unable to really master it. So I just burn out of hobbies.
>>5945Yes you would inevitably act according to neuroconditioned optimizations and maybe maladaptions at least sometimes. You wouldn't want it otherwise - try puppetry or puppet simulator games and realize you'd need to do magnitudes more for complete conscious control of anything of yourself, part of mind or body. It'd be a waste of expression effort to try to act earnestly when you're not feeling like it during a chore, physical or social.
You actually would doubt your sincerity when the best expression opportunity compatibility you've been experiencing is chore-tier.
Opportunities don't change that the existence of subjectivity of your feeling of aesthetics and your sense of what feels non-rottingly sweet in your life would always be with you.
That is, cybernetic mess still has to work around your ontological presence, so…
Having an objective temporal and spatial continuum basis for my causal identity, I don't feel like asking for more to work from. The conditioning being a phenomenon means you can condition yourself around yourself just like you'd condition your CNS into pressing key sequences despite whatever analog signal incoherence and micromistriggers you have within the neurons.
The biggest point of confusion here would be genuine tastes that just naturally may seem so off-putting and adjacent to conformism or malice that, possibly, in lens of your perception, you wouldn't be able to help but always wonder whether it's plausible for such genuine tastes to actually exist.
As long as, for that no one gets hurt and no one's subjectivity gets blocked out from expression, I suppose.
Do you think your self is distinct from your physical body?
>>5957Yes, very much so. However, physical body affects lived experience and that in turn affects self. I wouldn't be the same self if I started with a different body and even if I changed this body for another, the lived experience would persist.
>>5961No, but aluminum foil helmet might reduce headache and stress in some cases.
Will Lumfoil prevent my C
K from being horny 24/7??????
>>5959There isn't much sense in assigning a sense of self to a continuous experience if what makes up each moment is reliant on things that aren't immutably tied to it. Why not acknowledge that each thing changes and that change is an essential component to what produces your existence? It's not an objective fact, it's just an arbitrary designation.
I am happy because I'm doing good on this holiday. This is just my third day of holiday but I already read a little and watched an anime I was really wanting to watch, and even wrote a little! I finally have time to focus on me.
Through this inteire year I was thinking about how worse I was in comparison to my past self. I would remember 2021, 22 and 24 and how I was better, but now I think I'm slowly recovering from despair and sadness and building a better version of myself: I'm being able to follow my classes now and I want to read and learn instead of just grinding Disgaea, which is what I did in the last, mid-of-the-year holidays. I'm just happy I can envision a better future for myself and that I'm excited about some stuff.
>>5963Amputation is the only solution
>>5976I think some Lum rubber would do it quite fine.
>>6016I have been looking for longer form videos to kill time but half of them are video essays that are lazy intellectualism and the other half is some nut yelling into a camera. I wish there was better text to speech software where the voice does not sound like some inhuman google bot or hurts your ears.
Why does all of society feel like a massive scam now? Everywhere you look you see scams, monetization, corner cutting, low quality material for high prices. Its exhausting.
>>6111capitalism incentivizes turning everyone into a sucker
>>6111my dumb relatives are getting into the herbalife mlm, it seems to spread really quickly because we are connected filially
i didn't prevent it but it's honestly embarrassing seeing this happen to them when they think my ethnic group is superior because of historical shit
i also dont know what to do because i am usually seen as a negative person in my family and sort of a failure
so i guess i've done nothing
really embarrassing
>>6111You have 3 main freedoms in America. Freedom to own guns, freedom to drive big trucks, and freedom to scam.
>>6121It's hard to make the most out of your dreams, because dreams are just a distorted reflection of reality.
>>6121try fasting anon, it makes you a lot happier :)
I've been recovering from a cold but I wanted to go to the gym so badly I said fuck it, downed a couple painkillers, and went down to train for 2 hours. Now I feel even worse. Not only does my body feel like shit but I'm gloomy about letting my coaches down by taking more days off. I l know this is in my head and they are just happy I show up but I still feel bad. I really like training goddamit!
Americans only like football because nobody else plays this sport, which effectively guarantees they will never loose. There is no risk of some upstart foreigners and playing the game better than they do. The NBA and baseball occasionally pilfer a player from Asia or bring in a Canadian team disturbing the image of American perfection with the presence of ugly foreigners. The NFL doesn't have this problem because nobody outside of North America plays this game. The whole thing is staged with all the imagery and pageantry of a jingositic America, a fake battlefield full of macho tough guys who give up under the mildest strain to be carted off to the sidelines when ever their pinky hurts. There is in fact no real contest going on in the superbowl. Nothing is at stake. This isn't like the world cup or the Olympics where two nations face off, its narcissus gazing at his own reflection. What do the athletes in NFL represent? They are all symbols for the same damn thing.
>>6176This isn't true. Not counting the CFL, there is the X League which has been running since the 70s and NFL Europe / ELF has been running since the 80s.