Why did you post this on /kind/?

>>4697
/kind/ has been an advice giving board for about a decade now. "Help Others!" and such. "How do I quit porn?" is a classic question I've seen a number of times. Not that I know how to do so myself.
>>4692
This https://easypeasymethod.org/ looks considerable. Has anyone tried it?

What do people mean by quitting porn? Does it just mean porn outright or cover 2D stuff too? Anything with sex in it? And why do people want to quit porn? Why does it make you feel ashamed? I'm not saying you shouldn't but its good to be clear about what exactly you want.

>>4702
>And why do people want to quit porn?
Because it does you brain damage. Quitting it is a literal exhibition of strong will. That's why they all fail in the end. People with strong will don't end up posting about quitting porn on imageboards. Or maybe somebody actually makes it out, I don't know. We can only pray for every one who tries.

>>4705
>Because it does you brain damage
Doubt, are you saying anyone who does nsfw drawing and those who do adult video get brain damaged too? People evently grow up after aging and forget about those things, just like how teens grow up and stop playing with baby toys. You're just not there yet.

>>4702
It makes me feel like shit and gets me hooked on weird fetishes. The whole industry is built on exploiting womens bodies and child abuse.

I never had a porn addiction unless reading doujins now and again for long fap sessions count. But even that is only like a once in every 3 month thing. I'll try to give you some advice for how I go without using porn/doujin to fap though.

What you want to do is force yourself to use your imagination instead of relying on content other people have produced. I don't know if you're like me but I can create entire worlds and characters with my mind. I have my own little private worlds with recurring characters and everything. That's my fap material.

Now what I do is limit the number of times a week I fap. At most I only fap once a day right before I go to sleep. That way I'm not doing it near a screen/computer. You shouldn't bring either into your bedroom or where ever you sleep. If that's not possible you should have strict times where you turn them off (at least an hour before sleep) and break the habit of rolling out of bed to check them. This includes your phone by the way. You should put it away and turn off your wifi if you use wifi during the night. Unplug the AP. If it's built into your modem/router then simply unplug it because you shouldn't be tempted by the internet during sleep hours.

Now as far as fapping. If you can you shouldn't do it everyday. You should put at least 3 days between fap sessions (longer if possible). This will make them feel much better and break you out of your daily fap sessions if you're doing it more than once a day. There is nothing wrong with fapping twice in a row if you've waited 3+ days. I find that it's pretty easy to do it and you'll actually have a proper orgasm the second time instead of firing blanks like you do when you go on long fap runs while fapping it to porn (I'm not really into 3DPD using porn as a general term for smut here).

This may not work as great for you since my fetish is impossible to obtain IRL and while there is a lot of drawn content for it there isn't much amazing content for it. I usually end up watching/playing/reading the same few ones over and over again. There are two VNs for my fetish that are decent but they're both in a half-finished state and probably will remain that way for a long time to come. Lately, the content for my fetish isn't that great either due to things happening in society. But I digress.

Try to use your imagination more and fap less. As an added bonus. Once you develop your imagination skills you'll most likely start having dreams about whatever you're into. I have one now and again and they're always great. They're also the only wet dreams I've ever had. Which speaking of wet dreams if you start limiting your fapping and manage to go about a week-2 weeks you'll have wet dreams. At least I do. Might take you less days if you're younger than I am. I never had wet dreams when I was younger because I guess I was fapping too much to let enough cum build up.

If you let your balls fill up you will have a wet dream and I always find them to be the most realistic and awesome feeling dreams of all. They feel more real than my usual dreams. I've even managed to go lucid during one and it was great. The only downside is you can't avoid cumming in your shorts. So be prepared for that. I used to sleep naked but I stopped after I messed the sheets a couple of times. Now I wear something to bed that isn't annoying that I don't mind cumming all over.

I honestly never saw what people got out of porn in the first place. When all my friends were getting into it growing up they always made fun of me because I wasn't interested in looking at some dude's penis going into some worn out pussy or tits in the titty mags. Last thing I wanted to do is sit around in a room with a bunch of guys fapping while watching some old VHS tape they'd swiped from their Dad's bedroom. But then I got older and discovered some JAVs that were about my fetish and I kind of saw the appeal. But I was never into watching the actual sex part of them. Same kind of goes for doujins about it. I wish they were more story based instead of sex scenes.

What I usually do is what I guess is called edging. I imagine some scenario in a made up story I came up with. Then I put myself in as one of the characters. I keep making up more stuff happening in the story until I feel like I'm about to cum. Then I stop fapping long enough for the feeling to go away. Then I start again and repeat this process for sometimes 2+ hours. Finally, at the climax of the story I'll let myself finish. If I'm feeling particularly horny and its been awhile sometimes I'll wait about 10 minutes and go again. But typically, I'll never do it more than twice in one sitting and never more than twice in a day. From time to time I'll get the urge and I'll go on fapping marathons in front of the PC. Usually when I'm playing one of the above mentioned VNs. But that's a rare thing I only do maybe 3 times a year if that.

>>4709
Wanted to add: If you're a teenager-early/mid 20s feeling horny all the time is normal. You're supposed to feel that way because you're supposed to be in the prime of your life on the hunt for 3DPD all of the time. Porn industry relies on this to make a profit. Don't let the 3DPD fool you they feel the same way all of the time.

If you're into 3DPD perhaps consider chasing it more often. If not then the above advice should work. Provided you're willing to give it a chance and have the will power. My addictions were more chemical related during those years of my life. So avoiding porn wasn't that hard since I was focused on feeding my other addictions.

I'm older now so I can go longer without feeling the urge. Just part of getting old I guess. But even today I can tell when it has been too long and I'll pop boners randomly. I've noticed the 3DPD I meet in public can notice as well. I guess the lack of fapping builds up my T levels and I'm putting out good smells or something. They always give me smiles and the 'fuck me' look whenever I'm in the grocery store after working all day. Might also be the fact that I stopped using deodorant under my arms too. 3DPD loves the smell of arm pits for whatever reason. Multiple girls I've asked about it confirmed it and I've seen them bury their noses in guys pits so many times over the years. So perhaps I just smell musky or something but I think the letting balls fill up has something to do with it too. I'd say on average for the last several years I've only fapped every 3-5 days most of the time. With the few days a year where I might fap 3+ times over the course of several hours while playing a VN or reading doujins excluded of course.

You should consider turning all the screens off one day as a challenge. Perhaps you don't have a porn addiction and instead it's an internet addiction where you just happen to look at smut while you're on it. Get yourself a bunch of books to read or music to listen to (mp3 players are okay as long as you don't browse the internet on them). Then plan an entire day around either reading inside or doing something fun outside like hiking, gardening or catching up on yard work or something. Force yourself to go 24-72 hours without interacting with a screen at all. No phone, no TV, no PC, no gaming and no tablet or whatever else you might have. See how you feel afterwards. You don't have to go all of the way either. Maybe have your imagination fap sessions to reward yourself before bed for going the entire day without using the internet and looking at screens all together. I'm sure you've got something you need to catch up on that the internet has been distracting you from anyway. We all do IME.

I guess my lack of access to internet porn and old school VHS/DVD porn was a bit of a god send growing up. We had the internet but it was dial-up so you'd probably finish fapping by the time the picture you clicked on 2 minutes ago got down to the girl's tits. Downloading a JAV took 8+ hours if you could find them and the guy you were downloading from hadn't mislabeled the file just to mess with people. So growing up I spent most of my time fapping to imagined scenarios about 2D girls I liked from anime and western animation. Well those or girls I went to school with sometimes but usually 2D won out because it was more interesting and in-line with my fetish. You younger people are pretty spoiled now compared to how we had it back then. People didn't instantly scan stuff back then and it was hard to find stuff like JAVs on the internet since p2p networks were either not around yet or only a couple of years old. This was before torrents and all that. But even on IRC and USENET it was hard to get a lot of stuff. Even if you found it they'd boot you off the fserv bots a lot of the time if you didn't have broadband or if they suspected you were a fed. Which happened to me a lot because of the IP range my ISP was in. Lost access to a good ftp server with a lot of early VHS fansub rips in RealMedia format because of that (pre DivX).

Best of luck to you.

>>4709
>>4710
Last thing, if you've been fapping so much that your balls are shooting dust it will take several days before you recover initially. So don't get bummed out if you wait a few days only to not have a powerful and rewarding orgasm. Same goes for the wet dreams thing I mentioned. It will take your body a few days to recover from what you've been doing. The a few more days before it starts falling into its new routine. Long story short expect it to take about a week (I'm estimating) before you'll get rewarding effects if following the above schedule I laid out. First week will probably be hard. Second week is much better. By the third week you should have kicked your addiction and fallen back into normalcy. Whatever that is for you.

All addictions take about a month to break initially. Opioids and every other chemical I've abused over the years was that way. First few days-week feels horrible. Second week is better but still pretty bad. Third week you start feeling much better and stop thinking about whatever you're addicted to all of the time. Then after a month or two you feel great but in the third month you hit this slump where you have this massive desire to go back thinking it won't be so bad and you'll only do it this one time. Which is how people relapse. For opioids they even have a term for it. It's called PAWS and some people claim it lasts for months-years.

Also as they say: Once and addict always an addict. I've found there is a lot of truth to that statement. You have to build will power and have enough to keep yourself from falling into old patterns.

You shouldn't feel ashamed. Asking for help and admitting you have a problem is the first step everyone has to take to recover. Everyone is addicted to something. Most people are massive addicts to bad things but they don't think they're an addict because society doesn't view their addiction as being a bad thing. I know a lot of people that are addicted to various pills but they claim they're not because they're getting them from a doctor. I've also had plenty of alcoholics attempt to shame me for my own drug addictions. Even though their addiction to alcohol is much much worse than what my own addictions were. Their addiction could kill them any day if they don't take a drink. Where the substances I was addicted to wouldn't kill me from withdraw even though withdraw from them wasn't pleasant. The substances I was using were also far less harmful to the body. In fact, they were some of the safest drugs known as far as taking them everyday is concerned. If I had still been getting them prescribed through a legal channel no one would have questioned it. But because I was buying them off the street and the media started to fear monger about them I was labeled a junkie. Biggest mistake I ever made was telling people close to me about it and how I wanted to quit.

Now I've been off of them for over a decade but I'm still labeled a junkie and looked at with suspicion. If I get hurt at work and decide to lay around for a few days to recover they think I'm back on the pills. If some pills go missing I'm the first one they suspect. If I'm in what people consider too good of a mood they think I'm high. Always causes a huge argument too because typically it's one of the people mentioned above addicted to OTC/prescribed substances accusing me of being high when I typically just feel bad, am worn out or I'm having a great day for whatever reason.

It was very hard to quit. It took tons of will power and locking myself away in a room for about a week. I don't think you'll have as hard of a time as I did. But I wanted to be upfront with you about this. You'll have a strong desire to give up those first few days and you'll have a strong desire to fall back into your addiction after you've quit even months from now. You're going to have a bad day at some point and will want to fall back into it to feel better. You have to have the will power to prevent yourself from doing so.

You'll be a better person after you do this. This will build character and it'll make you a stronger/better person in the long run. Best of luck and please let me know how you're doing.

we can't live without it, it's just our nature

>>4708
The problem of exploitation can be solved for you by not engaging in 3D porn. My longest streaks started and ended out of feelings of guilt so I don't have any good advice for that. I've learned that the reasons for why I felt guilty were flawed so there wasn't much point in continuing for me.

>>4714
you can you just have weak will. porn is a recent invention.

>>4716
Why were they flawed?

>>4709
I dont have a problem with firing blanks lol
Imagination can be messed up. If I imagine things my fantasies are disturbing so I go and watch normal porn to condition myself to be normal. I have sick fantasies.

I went without 3DPD porn for like a month when I was using VNs and h manga but I relapsed. It started with censored JAV but ended up on 4chan 3DPD porn boards.

>>4718
There isn't anything inherently wrong with pleasure in itself, what is there to be guilty of? I have a lot of difficulty with letting myself enjoy things because often times it doesn't make sense to, I don't know why I would want to.

>>4719
>what is there to be guilty of?
perverted fetishes and sick fantasies and immoral stuff

>>4721
Those things aren't pleasure. If those undesirable things aren't present then there's no problem.

>>4719
porn isn't pleasure it's ale demanding dickhead stimulation. 99.9% of porn made in the last decade or so is disgusting.

>ale
i meant ape, i apologize

>>4721
>>4719
Every time I watch porn I feel literally cursed by god. Like watching the porn has brought a curse on me and my day will go bad and I’ll be less productive and won’t get shit done. Even if a curses doesn’t exist I feel enough shame and guilt that it seriously messes with my head.

>>4728
That's why I put off the wankery until just before bedtime. It knocks me out every time.

>>4729
It makes me feel bad the day after too but not as much

>>4725
What would that 0.01% look like? Some kind of art? Art that is only incidentally porn? Something not graphic? Literature? Something purely educational? Porn isn't pleasure, obviously.
>>4730
Fapping makes my head feel cloudy. If I'm sensitive enough then anything arousing makes me feel that cloudy feeling of being unable to think.

>>4732
>Fapping makes my head feel cloudy
ape response, generally not controllable, though maybe there's 0.1-1% of trained people who can surf it to a certain degree.
>What would that 0.01% look like?
like something not utterly disgusting.
>Porn isn't pleasure, obviously
porn is your internal ape, it has no meaning. ape wants to see a pussy ape goes and sees a pussy (unless somebody kicks it in the face)

>>4689
Instead of trying so hard to quit porn, just let it happen by itself naturally. You know, like when people stop eating junk because they've fed up with it.

Stopping porn 100% is often impossible. But you can drastically reduce your time and energy spending on it.

Here are some advices of mine, talking from personal experience which I hope they'll help:

- Instead of trying to look for new porn all the time, just fap with the porn you already have.

- Instead of having 2 TB of porn, delete most of it (I doubt you even watch/read most of the porn you have at your hard disk anyway) and just keep your favorite one in case you need the urge to fap.

- Avoid sites that are full with porn and sexualized stuff like reddit, 4chan, twitter, Instagram, discord, deviantart etc. Especially 4chan where porn addicts spam porn literally everywhere and with gross stuff like real life mom fetish. And only hang out to places like here. And yeah, I know that it's easier done than side since all these sites are the most active ones (thanks a lot, internet centralization).

- Delete your accounts at porn sites. Or at least stop using them.

- For sites like Pixiv turn on the filter for R18 stuff.

- You can replace porn with sexualized stuff that is just lewd but still sfw or just have partly nudity (like topless women) or full nudity but no porn stuff. This one helps a lot in my case.

- When you want to fap, instead of trying to hold it back just fap. Then after relieving your sexual urges you won't need to fap for the rest of the day (maybe fapping twice in some cases). Fapping and sexuality is a natural need. So trying to stop it by force is often ridiculous. That's my personal biased opinion at least, so maybe I'm wrong.

>>4705
>Because it does you brain damage
Says whom? Terminally online schizos who have social media addiction? Ex porn addicts that blame their lack of self control and their lives' failures to the medium itself? The "experts" that also tell you that being a gamer is mental illness but being a granny isn't?

>>5680
You literally watch another alpha male fuck a woman that isn't yours and enjoy it. You don't even try to struggle anymore. You are defeated. That's the brain damage I am talking about. Porn is a ticking bomb under your nose that you never notice until too late.

>>5681
You'd be doing yourself a huge favor if you put in the time to stop thinking about others in that kind of way

>>5681
Yurifriends are superior.

The best advice is to keep yourself as busy as possible with hobbies, if you're hyperfocused on improving a skill of yours or just completing a task porn will not even come to mind. When you're actively thinking of not fapping you're thinking of porn one way or another, my biggest streaks without it were always times when I didn't even actively try, it just wasn't something I had time to since all of my energies were elsewhere.

The solution to getting off porn is finding actual sexual fulfillment. Porn ruins your imagination and ability to fantasize and masturbate to your fantasies. So you need to have sex with somebody or masturbate to your own fantasies and when you enjoy that more you’ll stop resorting to porn.