turkey day
also this is planned to happen an hour earlier than normal. if people can't make it i can push it to sunday at the normal time
Hisoutensoku is an expansion to touhou 10.5, made by tasofro with ZUN's approval. It's a fast paced fighting game featuring all your favorites from the touhou project.
Sign up at
https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/1hGBq3fNt8 or reply so I can add you manually.
View the bracket at
https://challonge.com/wapsoku11
>>4001It's around an hour before now.
Also if there's not enough people I can just push it to tomorrow at the normal time which would work better for me
Please sign up sixty.
>>4006So we could all sleep for one extra hour on Sunday 26th October.
>>3996sign me up as Az pls
CONGRATULATIONS SIREN FOR WINNING
soku?
>>4013Yes, but you will have to host.
>>4014Sure, hop on 176.213.226.247:10800 with giuroll!
>>4014Internet died, rehosted at 37.112.159.121.
>>4016Rehosted again at 176.213.225.104.
>>4013GGs, thanks for the games. Sorry for going AFK multiple times, I couldn't avoid it.
More soku?
>>4018Ggs, long time no see!
I'd be up for more in around few hours if no one else comes.
>>4019>>4018Who is up now?
>>4020I (
>>4018) am. Can you host?
>>4022Waiting in the wapchan lobby.
>>4023Are you having problems with the connection?
>>4024Yes, a little bit. Let me try joining your host.
>4024
Give me a minute, I'll try hosting. Maybe it'll work properly this way.
>>4024Try 178.44.111.134:10800 please.
>>4027GGs
Very good games, I wanted to play more but I have to make food, lets play later maybe.
>>4028GGs, thanks for the games. Iku has so much presence in neutral, it feels like my anti-air attempts will lose to her j2A anywhere on the screen.
soku?
>>4031178.44.111.134:10800
>>4031GGs, thanks for the games. No other matchup feels like solving a puzzle during a game of soku. I wish you were using d22x instead of the a22x laser, just to add more spinners to the controlled chaos of Alice mirrors.
soku?
>>4035178.44.111.134:10800
>>4035GGs, thanks for the games.
>>4037ggs, thanks for hosting
soku?
>>4040GGs, thanks for the games. A rare character and a rare amount of patience, what an opponent.
>>4043yeah, nobody plays Iku in Europe. if you mean my patience, i've just played this matchup enough, so i can impose my game
soku?
>>4047Try 178.44.67.40:10800 please.
>>4045GGs, thanks for the games.
>>4049ggs
thanks for hosting
Soku gaming?
>>4051i'll play a short set
>>4052Hop on 5.165.191.159:10800 with giuroll!
>>4054ggs, thanks for hosting
Any more soku?
>>4058GGs
Damn that was good, I still need one more piece of the puzzle in order to dominate Alice.
soku?
soku?
>>406589.254.225.210:10800
>>4065GGs, thanks for the games.
soku?
>>4073ggs
Man this is pure bullshit….
>>4074ggs, thanks for playing
that thing is air blockable and i was blocking in the air anyways so it probably wouldn't have been a good exchange either way
>>4075But doesn't HJ leave you vulnerable for a long time? I mean my timing was wrong but when I try to do something at that distance I always get hit so I assumed I was going to get you there that's why I went for that.
>>4076Ah damn :(
I should've used the quick one
>>4076>But doesn't HJ leave you vulnerable for a long time?it does, 623 is too slow to catch it reliably though. initially i thought you wanted to guard point my landing j5A which wouldn't have worked because i was blocking, but if you wanted to catch the high jump startup instead then that would have worked if you had picked a faster move
>>4078Yeah I just checked on the replay takeover, alternately I could have done way later and it would've have worked too.
soku?
soku
Soku gaming?
>>4085Yeah, hop on 37.112.171.187:10800 with giuroll!
soku?
>>409089.254.202.251:10800
>>4090GGs, thanks for the games.
>>4093ggs, thanks for hosting
soku?
soku?
>>409989.254.253.38:10800
>>4099GGs, thanks for the games. Feels like my setups are only good in places where 7 j(6)A work better.
>>4101ggs
jump is pretty strong against Alice, high jump spam may be a bit of an overcommitment but regular chickenblocking just kinda kills a lot of setups consistently. it's probably something you'll have to get used to
soku?
>>410494.241.206.244:10800
>>4106GGs, thanks for the games. I managed to properly hit 5AAAA dl.3A(1) 236B a whole single time this set, and I had to really focus on it.
The delay falls into just the right window when it feels uncomfortable waiting that long, and 236B after has to be done fast enough when it needs a weird input, at least on keyboard. I have to either do 3A 5D 236B or make a half-circle like motion by releasing 6 right after I input 3A. At least it gives enough time for 4C 236B oki and actual pressure with j8A ender.
soku
soku?
soku?
>>4115still up? thread didn't refresh until recently for some reason
When's the next tournament?
>>4117GGs, thanks for the games.
soku
>>4122yeah. Give me a few mins to finish up my current game and I'll be in the wap lobby
>>4123GGs
Good soku.
That long combo of yours feels like it takes an eternity to end haha.
>>4124GGs.
I am quite proud of it
soku?
soku now?
>>4141ggs, was fun thanks for playing
Soku gaming?
>>4144Yeah, hop on 5.16.29.163:10800 with giuroll!
soku?
>>4149GGs, thanks for the games.
when is the tournament?
soku?
>>4156I'm up, most likely for a short set though.
>>4157sure that's fine
soku lobby
>>4158Sokulobbies still seem to randomly die on me for no apparent reason, let's do it the old way 5.16.29.163:10800
>>4159ggs
thanks for hosting and merry christmas
Merry Christmas and thanks for this year's soku
>>4163You're better at planning than me. I can't even figure out when to play Soku.
Though that might also be because I'm not good at it.
>new captchasNow that's peculiar.
Soku gaming?
>>4166Hop on 5.16.29.163:10800 with giuroll!
I love all tengu drums, but lvl3 especially. I really should cut how frequent I use them, they forgive and reward way too stupid stuff sometimes.
>>4168Ggs, merry christmas to you too! Steadily getting back on gamer track after 2 weeks of study and half a week of lying in fever right afterwards, seems like I'll be able to properly play at year-ending tourney after all.
Also nice work in those two perfect rounds, thankfully they weren't in a single match.
soku?
in lobby
>>4173are you having technical difficulties? i'm seeing you casually walking out of bounds and then getting kicked out of the lobby
>>4174it keeps doing this and timing out, it does that even in the lobby screen
lemme Tech Support it
Soku gaming?
>>4177Gotta go right now, maybe in half an hour or so.
>>4179Sorry, something came up unexpectedly, might take another 40 mins of waiting.
>>4179Ok it's finally soku gaming time, hop on 5.16.29.163:10800 with giuroll!
has the challonge link been released yet?
Hi, gonna have to push this one back to another day
I don't actually have a place I can record normally/without interruptions with all the family over (wasn't expecting them to stay this long).
I will try to get a poster up and something set in stone over the next week, likely around new years.
>>4181GGs, well played! I keep rediscovering how scary Aya can be.
>>4183Reasonable! Remember to take it easy.
>>4185Ggs! Glorious day, finally I really stand on equal ground with person against who I couldn't even score a round back in the day.
> I keep rediscovering how scary Aya can be.I noticed you're rather fearless player, however I try to get some mash respect for easier blockstrings you still mash when I don't want it most anyways.
>>4183Okie, just don't hold it on dec31/jan1 please, I'll need a day to celebrate and a day to recover.
Maybe real tournament were sokunegroes we've met along the way… I'm quite confident it is the case actually lol.
>>4183What if you
DO hold it on the 31st and sokuhijack the Gikopoi stream?
It would ensure Wapchan's cultural victory and possibly attract new players as well.
soku?
>>4188let's fight at the waplobby
would anyone like to play?
>>4191I wouldn't mind rotating in the lobby
i'm in the lobby right now if you'd like to play a few games
>>4194ggs, thanks for the games
soku?
soku
soku?
Hey, Soku dudes. I know it's off-topic, but here's an invitation for you. If any of you are interested, I hope you can participate. Happy New Year!
>>>/vnt/1925
New year's soku gaming?
>>4206Sure, but I can't use the lobby mod.
94.188.40.99:10800
soku?
>>4207Rehost please, forgot to change profile.
>>4207I'm sorry, give me a second. Something came up on IRL.
>>4208i'll play a short set
>>421189.254.220.198:10800
>>4210Sure, hop on 5.16.24.205:10800 whenever you're ready then.
>>4212one sec let me restart i'm having framedrops again for some reason
>>4207Back. Host up again on this IP.
>>4214GGs, thanks for the games.
>>4216ggs, thanks for hosting
soku anyone?
>>4215GGs man, glad to see you're still there. Happy new year and Merry Christmas (both approaching pretty soon)!
>>4218Host up again at
>>4207
More soku gaming?
>>4220Not going anywhere from here for years to come it seems. Also yeah, happy new year and merry soonish christmas (real)!
>>4223Yeah, hop on 5.16.24.205:10800 with giuroll!
>>4224GGs, thanks for the games.
GGs Alice player! Despite losing 9-21, this was some really good soku. I got to practice Marisa's offensive a bit more.
The rounds where I won seemed to be so only because you seemed exhausted. Or I wonder if I'm wrong?
Also, make sure to check out the AI war thread in /vnt/
>>>/vnt/1925 . It's a good game, even if it's long. The AI on 9+ difficulty is so harsh I've yet to beat it after around 200 hours in it. Lower difficulties are manageable, though.
>>4227GGs, thanks for hosting! You're an SSR+ pull in the soku player gacha. I'm looking forward to playing with you again.
>The rounds where I won seemed to be so only because you seemed exhausted. Or I wonder if I'm wrong? I don't think it's good to think this way. Even if there are external circumstances, a win is a win and a loss is a loss. In this case, there were no such circumstances. I just don't know how to handle enemy DPs and made other sloppy mistakes.
>Also, make sure to check out the AI war threadI saw it, might buy it, probably won't join on Friday. Time has been precious recently and I'm already ghosting some other commitments.
Happy New Year and merry (oldtimer) Christmas!
>>4228>I don't think it's good to think this way. Even if there are external circumstances, a win is a win and a loss is a loss. In this case, there were no such circumstances. I just don't know how to handle enemy DPs and made other sloppy mistakes.Very well, I'll believe you. No more talking like that. It was difficult to get those wins as is, if I was a worse player I'd basically get less. Some of those games came down to a wire. Sometimes even literally.
>I saw it, might buy it, probably won't join on Friday. Time has been precious recently and I'm already ghosting some other commitments.Happy New Year and merry (oldtimer) Christmas!
Spoilers, but I *might* find a way to get some steam gift codes for global. Even if some you guys redeem those and don't join the game, it'd warm my heart if you accepted those. Check the thread tomorrow.
>>4229or now I guess
Merry Christmas y'all!
soku?
>>4231Sure, alright.
94.188.40.99:10800
>>4233GGs, thanks for the games. It's been awhile since I played against Marisa, this is such a fun matchup.
>>4234Marisa is a really fun character all around. You get so many situational tools to pull out of a hat, but if you use them at the wrong time, it gets bad for her. So it's like playing a character with 9 attack buttons, in a way.
>>4235I think most characters have a lot of situational moves, but they get overshadowed by some low-risk multipurpose move. I get what you're saying, though, I think it's much more entertaining for both players when once character has a lot of risky but rewarding moves.
Happy New Year! It's 0:33 right NOW in 2026!
>>4237But you're all SSR+ level pulls in my book.
>>4238Happy new year in 1.5 hours from here
>But you're all SSR+ level pulls in my book.ehehehehe
Soku gaming?
>>4244Hop on 5.16.24.205:10800 with giuroll!
>>4244Sorry, headphones died on me surprisingly early and crashed the game with them. Ggs for now, we can play some more after I recharge them in around 15 minutes.
>>4249Ggs again! Can't seat confidently on any success as with new day comes new Alice difficulty level.
> Much harder to disrespect a character with such a damage output.That's the reason why I picked her today, couldn't bear your impudent mashes any longer. Yuyu's mash punish is at the very least a good 1.8k+ autocombo anywhere on the screen, and in best case with 4k timebomb attached as well.
Question to experts - how do I make my opponent stop mashing as much and get some respect as Aya? I'm really trying to use anti-mash measures and they do hit rather often, but at most it's meagre 600 damage for each such "punish" and I can't even blame opponent for disregarding that. Meanwhile anti-mash options are often blockstring-enders as well, so if I always go with them I won't be able to get persistent pressure.
>>>/vnt/1925starts in an hour or so
be there or be square
Soku gaming?
>>4255Hop on 5.16.27.50:10800 with giuroll!
On one hand post-new years broken sleeping schedule allows for such late-night sets and I can soku to 4 AM in full consciousness and it's pretty nice. On the other hand, it's 4 AM…
>>4258Ggs! I'm seriously considering bringing more IDs in the deck just to make my anti-mash hits matter. But if I really go and use them like that I'll end up with no spirit-crushing cards or cards at all in no time lol.
Any hosd?
soku?
yes. soku
94.188.40.99:10800
GGs Macaron man
Please don't try to play Alice without Seeker Wire alts, it just doesn't work out. Your Meiling's not bad!
>>4265GGs, thanks for the games. For once, Meiling's 623B works like a solid anti-air. I love this move, but it's practically useless against most characters.
>>4266Seeker Wire takes away a lot of fun things Alice has with default spinners. Doll placement doesn't matter that much anymore, and metered AUB setups and crushes become pretty hard to pull off. She's a completely different character without them. A slightly better one for sure, but it just doesn't click with me as much as default 22X.
>>4268That may be true, but Alice's whole deal is that if she doesn't get to breathe, she doesn't get to fight. Aggressive characters exploit that. Seeker Wire lets you, well, breathe.
>>4269I think the important thing about Alice that runs d22X is the fact that she's much closer to a rushdown character than a zoner. If the neutral ever gets reset to a fullscreen situation, she's instantly at a disadvantage, but if she can ride the momentum and stay in f5a range, now her opponent doesn't get to play at all. I can't play like, but someone who knows how to pressure people would make her work just as well as an Alice that runs Seeker Wire, on top of having much more freedom with crushes and setups that lead to a checkmate.
Soku gaming?
>>4271yes soku yes gaming
>>4272Hop on 5.16.28.43:10800 with giuroll!
The dreaded 1000ms death spike.
>>4275GGs! Iku-san! Getting wins with her despite your inexperience should tell you just how scary she is for Alice. But (thankfully) she is not easy to pick up and play.
Thanks for another long set. This was good soku.
soku
Anyone hosting?
>>4278Game:
107.222.62.186:10800
>>4280I can play now if you're still alive.
>>4281I have a little time.
107.222.62.186:10800
soku?
94.188.40.99:10800 soku!
GGs, alicefriend
soku?
Any host?
>>4295GGs! thanks for hosting.
Remi is weird as hell to use.
>>4296Oh, and still looking for games incase anyone's alive
>>4296ggs, long time no see
thanks for playing
>Remi is weird as hell to use.dunno if it's lack of practice or high latency but for some reason she felt really awkward to play for me as well
>>4298I think it's the combination of both lmao
Soku gaming?
>>4285Also, one more epic soku gamer needed for full 2v2 stack! Come join, this is fun I promise!
>>4303Hop on 5.16.28.43:10800 with giuroll!
>>4308Alice's 66A is the strongest force in the universe.
soku?
>>4314one sec i'll restart i'm having fps issues
Soku gaming?
>>4318ggs, the game really wanted to see the frog. unfortunately, couldn't quite do her justice today
thanks for hosting
Soku gaming?
>>4327Hop on 5.16.28.43:10800 with giuroll!
This happened TWICE during today's set, and was supposed to be anti-mash option…
>>4327Ggs! Is it only me or do you also feel each of our games somehow became longer?
Well except the last one lol.
>>4328GGs, thanks for hosting. Sudden death soku where both players are afraid to commit is good.
>>4329>webmAlice 66A truly has no equal. I think it's normal that games get longer as they become less one-sided.
>>4330> Sudden death soku where both players are afraid to commit is good.Honestly these situations are really difficult for me, my patience and composure meters deplete rather quickly and it ends up in stupid finger slips like on webm.
Meanwhile, tourney anytime soon?
>>4332I can do one on the 17th at the usual time if that works for people
Any host?
Soku!
107.222.62.186:10800
>>4333Works for me.
soku?
>>4343no but i could play now
Soku?
107.222.62.186:10800
>>4347You okay over there?
>>4348I had family asking for help moving boxes.
>>4349Oh, alright, that's fair, you did well to help them. GGs, I'm sorry for short games. I don't think we can play this very well - this delay feels randomly generated.
If you have trouble learning Komachi, I recommend scouring the wiki and discord for guides. I like reinventing the wheel and doing stupid things, so I don't generally do this, but it feels like may help in your case.
>>4350GGs.
>this delay feels randomly generated. Yeah, after I got back it seemed to get really bad.
>If you have trouble learning KomachiI haven't played in around 2 months, and all of my practice has just been throwing myself into games. I really should put in some effort to learn a few things.
>>4351That's the spirit! I'll be rooting for you on your path of hyper conquest!!!
suku in da lobby
QUICK, QUICK, BEFORE IT GETS AWAY!
107.222.62.186:10800
soku?
Any host?
>>4365Sorry, playing mahjong right now.
is there still a tournament planned for tomorrow?
Waiting warmly for announcements.
>>4372I can't seem to find register button on tourney page somehow, is it only me?
>>4374sign me up as Az please
>>4374Please sign up Sixty.
Soku gaming?
Soku gaming?
>>4394Yeah, hop on 176.213.146.133:10800 with giuroll!
>>4395one sec pc is shitting the bed once again
>>4397ggs, well played
thanks for hosting
soku?
>>440189.254.244.184:10800
>>4402gimme a min i forgot i have to restart my pc every time i wanna play this game now
>>4403GGs, thanks for the games.
>>4404ggs, thanks for hosting
>>4408GGs well played by all. Who could've thought that the way to fix Aya was to bring another Aya.
Yuyuko and Yuyuko however is a match made in Hell.Let's pray for a 4th player next time.
>>4408The power of friendship has prevailed!
I feel bad for all who don't have alicefriends to beat up their enemies
Game:
107.222.62.186:10800
GGs. I managed to take a round, so that's progress.
soku?
soku now?
Soku gaming?
soku today?
Imperishable Friday Night soku?
>>4438I fell asleep literally
two minutes before your post. Never going to sleep again.
>>4439NTA but I'd be up for soku in around 15 minutes.
>>4440Please join whenever you're ready.
89.73.129.151:10800
>>4440GGs, well played! That was one hell of a final match. Given recent circumstances I was expecting to do much worse but I guess I still got it.
Unless I miscounted, that is. You definitely tightened up your game since the last long set we played! Please keep getting stronger and stronger forever.
Also I'm still looking for more soku.
Apparently I've lost all recordings of my epic 5c typhoon countersuction tech, glad to get a fresh one.
>>4442Ggs! I feel like last bit of power I need to get for total domination in this matchup is steel discipline that would prevent me from trying something funny every each interaction. That goes for any matchup really, but for this one in particular.
> Please keep getting stronger and stronger forever.Will do for sure, hope you'll be able to keep up as well!
>>4443still up? i can play for a bit
>>4447ggs. i think i've said it before but i have to say it again, this matchup honestly looks like it really fucking sucks for Alice. it's gotta take some real mental fortitude to keep pushing it despite of that
thanks for hosting
*Unsure how appropriate is it but anyway, following to my victory on a tourney elsewhere I was asked to add something to its banner as sort of victory mark, but my initial suggestion has been vetoed because they hate cute and funny Cirno jokes there, so I have to think of something else. I owe most of my playtime and skill developed from it to people from here, so I thought I let you come up with something you'd also like to see there. If you don't want to, I'm defaulting to semi-transparent KOISNEED captions all over the banner.**
>>4449I don't get it
You want a banner?
>>4450There's already existing banner in form of touhou randompic collage, I'm asking whether anyone here would like to add something from themselves there as representation of sorts, and I'll send it as my submission. Rules are no porn and loli sexo implications, otherwise anything goes.
please do not post in this kind of manner!
soku?
>>4451Send a picture of your favorite 2hu.
Game?
107.222.62.186:10800
Soku gaming?