Does "Obscure Cel Anime" even exist anymore? I feel like I've seen everything.
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>>3420
If they haven't bothered with a modern DVD/BD release, it's probably obscure. Though there's a slow steady trickle of new BD releases of old series.

Did anyone give a shit about Kentauros no Densetsu? It's not offensive, but it's not very good either and the art and animation are ho-hum. This is very typical of these obscure OVA/Film from this era. One thing I do appreciate though, is that the subject matter seems way more varied. Oh yeah, manga about bikers and turn that into an animated film about bikers. Would anything like this get made at all? I strongly get the vibe that this was meant to be a live action film from the way the script is written and how it's directed. Probably couldn't secure funding, so a cheap animated film was made.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/17339/Kentauros_no_Densetsu

 

>>3418
Well goodness gracious I’ve actually seen this short last year, it’s quite simple about the story of the rise of a pop star and I’m totally convinced this was done by the JEM animators, I liked it, short and sweet and essentially one big music video. Also I appreciate that the incarnation of Dracula they used looks like the christopher lee version from the hammer films

 

Lol stealth rec thread

 

>>3420
>Most pre-1945 anime is lost forever
At least one can assume that the percentage of anime lost is very small compared to the amount of anime permanently archived, by virtue of how hard it is to just produce anime, and thus the limited quantity of anime that could be lost in the first place.
Manga? Manga is fucked.
To give you an idea, when in 1977 Kodansha started the massive Tezuka Complete Series, or the Tezuka Black Label, it was estimated that Tezuka had penned over 700 manga; the Complete Collection has 400 titles, meaning that about half of what Tezuka himself wrote is lost.
The Black Label took 20 years to print every manga they could find and some Tezuka remade from scratch (for example, the original printing of Shin Takarajima is lost, the one published by Kodansha was remade by Tezuka in 1984) and that's the best Kodansha could do.
It's not an exaggeration to think that there are more lost manga than known manga

 

The rise of listing sites and torrents have eliminated obscurity. That said, there is a LOT of obscure cel anime out there, and it's probably not possible to watch it all in a lifetime.
There are a lot of long comedy and shoujo TV series that are so generic and bland nobody's touched them, and you'd have to be insane to sit through them. On the OVA/movie side, there are a lot of crappy delinquent, romance, and seinen action OVAs with middling animation, one-note characters, and reused, watered-down stories – none of the insane stories, great animation, cool robots, and violence people think OVAs generally have. You will find some obscure historical movies and OVAs, which tend to be good, and many of which haven't been ripped or subbed. But that's it.



 

You watch your retro anime on a period appropriate CRT, right anon?
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>>939
Agreed fuck anti glare

 

I have a pvm I haven't used at all but hopefully will be able to once I get a stand for it. Sadly only does s-video because it was probably just a security monitor, but it looks decent. Also need to install cfw on my ps3 so it can play jap dvds.

 

>>927
No. I'm a retro fan, not a hipster.

 

>>927
No for these reasons:
- I'm not a hipster
- Both VHS player and CRT tvs take too much space
- I don't have a CRT tv anymore
- I don't have favorite anime of mine at VHS anymore
- I prefer watching anime at my 42 inches tv with said anime being at best quality possible

 

>>927
I've got a late-90s/early-00s CRT that I bought from someone on OfferUp for like $8 (it has a crack on the back of it, but works just fine). N64 and PS1 games look about as good as you remembered they did back in the day on it, and I've got a Blu-Ray/DVD player hooked up to an adapter to an adapter. It's not the optimal way to watch newer stuff (Blu-Ray menus are next to impossible to read on that thing), but there's a nostalgic charm I like about it, especially when watching DVDs or VHSs on it. (Watching the Trigun DVDs on it was a magical experience.) I'm sure I sound like a caveman pleb right now to CRTfriends who know what they're doing, but that's what I've got going on in my room



 

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Apparently I started this in 2016, fuck it's been so long. Got busy and put it on hold but I need to resume it. It's good classic スポ根 and obviously they didn't fuck around, plenty of bitches getting slapped and hit in the face with balls.

 

>>229

> those webms

Metal af

 

>>227
as hillarious as these webm's are is this any good?

 

>>234
It's pretty good IMO. It's a breath of fresh air compared to modern shojo.

 

>>235
I have two weeks of vacation soon, I think I will try it because I have nothing to watch at the moment



 

Cowboy Bebop is boring. Outlaw Star has cute girls, Taoist magic, and intergalactic space temples and better action scenes. Yet we we're deprived of a sequel! Why do people even like Cowboy Bebop so much? Its not even that good! Well okay that's just annoyingly contrarian, its a good show just not as great at the hype train makes it out to be.

Legend of the Galactic Heroes is also overrated. The battle scenes are absurd. How can one man command so many vessels? It makes no sense. The average admiral can't even command one battle group properly but in LOTGH they can command hundreds of ships at once? No communications breakdown? Its like playing a crappy Paradox strategy game, having billion units, and realizing your brain doesn't have the mental processing power to manage them all but somehow they can do it. The story is Star Wars level Evil Nazi Coded Empire vs Space America. Its like choosing between slitting your throat or jumping into a fire.

Serial Experiments Lain is a great show but why isn't there more love for Texhnolyze?

Evengelion is good but overrated. Everybody knows this already. People are just mad at how popular it is.
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>>3347
bepop was constantly promoted, and shown more often. outlaw star was ran then disapeared. in toonami adverts you might see little cuts from outlaw star scenes that looked cool but nothing that actuall indicated which show it was from if you werent familiar with it. But everyone knew bebop because they never let you forget about it.

 

>>3351
>Simarily this is why the show wasn't very popular in japan

It's TV ratings in Japan were actually quite good.

"Between them, late night slots and WOWOW accounted for half of the ten 10k+ hits from that same 1997-2000 time period; Brain Powerd, Cowboy Bebop, Hand Maid May, Initial D, and To Heart."

https://animetics.net/2014/09/29/timeslot-history-1994-2000-wrapup/

 

>>3356
Well that's certainly true from a by view basis but I mean over all. For example, bebop ultimately got 1 series, 1 movie, 3 volumes and then done if I am not mistaken. The show wasn't really popular enough to push the series forward to more success. It was a novelty that people moved on from. Compare that to to-heart. Directly after the tv show, a manga was spawned and ultimately the series got a 2nd game. Now compare that to the beast that is Initial D. Initial D is still making new content, and currently is at like 5 tv series, 2 ovas, 8 movies, and 48 volumes of manga.

 

>>3358
Right, but most anime in general weren't large franchises like that, and there is more to the calculus when it comes to sequels than just popularity, like the consumer habits of the fanbase. Niche shows with a fanbase that will buy lots of merch can make up the difference, for example. Initial D and To Heart are also adaptations of other media, where Bebop is an original, so fairly different context.

 

>>3348
I don't really see how Cowboy Bebop characters are "deeper" than Outlaw Star. Just because one has all this melancholic jazzy aura doesn't mean is deeper. Outlaw Star is stronger in its vitalistic themes that just parading around navel gazing about whatever ghost of the past. And I think its themes resonate better through the power of will and lifting yourself up.

>>3352
Yeah, that sounds more plausible. Gene is a hyper-masculine character, he fights, he grabs butts, he's gallant and refuses to beat woman. Totally the opposite of the type of character that became mainstream after that and makes cat ladies go "oh nooes" while also wetting their panties.



 

Sup /cel/ I'm wondering if anyone knows any anime with religious themes? I don't mean anything that pushes a specific religion (although I'm not against watching that either) but anything that has a religious theme or deals with metaphysics, the occult, techno-religious imagery but not in a shallow fantasy way. e.g. where you'll have mages and priestesses but its pretty trivial and not explored with any depth or has no aesthetic relevance. Obviously, there's stuff like Evangelion, Bible Black, Osamu Tezuka's Buddha manga or garbage like Death Note. I'm also looking for stuff that relates to Japanese tradition such as the life of priests, shrine maidens, exorcists etc. It can be horror or hentai too.

 

>>2659
Not an anime but an OVA: Tenshi No Tamago, it has a lot of exotheric and occult themes.
It's not for everyone tho, some people would consider it boring.

 

>>2659
Neo Ranga is very oriented around how God and religion factors into peoples lives, and the different kinds of meaning it can have for different people. It's a great show in general as well.

 

Haibane renmei!

 

Ghost Hunt is pretty fun. An ordinary schoolgirl gets inadvertently involved with a dark, brooding stranger. They fight ghosts with the help of a Catholic Priest, a buddhist Monk, a Shinto Priestess and a spirit medium. It has a cute semi-romance between the two leads and it's really satisfying to see the support characters using different techniques based on their various religions during the fights.

A favourite of mine is Digital Devil Story: Megami tensei. A high school student gets bullied and decides to write a computer program to summon a demon in order to take revenge. He also meets a girl and they happen to be reincarnations of Izanami and Izanagi and they do some really cool shit. I don't really know what's happening but it's so edgy I love it anyway. I have to read the novel version someday.

Kujakuou has a mildy distinctive aesthetic based on Vajrayana Buddhsim. The main character was raised by Shingon monks. I can't remember much about the anime but the manga description makes it sound far more interesting than I remember it being.
>Kujaku is a Buddhist monk who specialize in exorcism, devil hunting. He is a member of Ura-Kouya, a secret organization in Japan that specialize in demon hunting. In the first 3 volumes, Ogino wrote independent short stories about Kujaku's demon hunting. But in volume 4, it evolves into an epic saga against a secret evil organization lead by The Teachers of Eight Leaves. The goal of The Teachers of Eight Leaves is to revive Peacock King and Snake King, and allow them to fight each other to give birth to the ultimate Dark Buddha.
Looks like they tried to fit 17 volumes worth of material into 5 OVA episodes and it suffered for it. This is another that I'm interested in reading someday.



 

watched Project A-Ko 1-4 a week ago (GEMERALD MOVIES BTW) and went looking for fanart only for there to be virtually nothing



 

Trigun, but the storytelling is kino's journey, the MC is kirby, and the women come and go as often as they do in Space Pirate Cobra.

Anyone else really enjoy Eat Man? Is the manga worth a read?
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>>515
I feel that EatMan comes off as heavily nihilistic. And so I think the main reason EatMan was so hard to take in is because its nihilistic worldview resides heavily over the story.

Although many episode serve as a parable there is no overarching theme or message that the show has to deliver. If anything the episodic nature of the show is used as a way to show the cyclical and meaningless nature of life. All the moments in the anime are quickly forgotten and nothing that happens has any effect on an existing overarching story.

As well as this Bolt never really changes at all. Early on they reveal that he was some kind of freak weapon made in a lab, but besides that nothing is revealed about his past and they never mention it again.

And besides Bolt all the characters are fairly 2 dimensional and there is never an attempt at making characters 3 dimensional. I'd say there are two types of character in this anime: those who have are driven by their desires and those who have no desire. Mercenaries like Bolt and Heart are people who have lost any desire and so they wander the world acting as tools others can use to achieve their own desires. Yet people like Bolt know first hand that desire is a type of ignorance that only leads to more desire and so on. And this is shown through all the recurring characters whose desire either leads them to suffering or a point at which they only desire more.

Bolt helps people achieve their goals, but it is often implied that nothing he does really helps anyone face reality. In one of the last 98 episodes he gives the robots back their memories and lets them continue living on believing they are human. This implies that Bolt does not save anyone, he merely lets them live in their own fantasies, or dreams. I believe this is partly why the program in the episode where the little girl dies says that Bolt is the only one who gets her. Because just as the programs keeps people in a dream Bolt lets others live their own dream. And why when he fails to save the little girl he renounces his title as a mercenary when he failed to keep the little girl in her dream. In the final episode of 97 Bolt is forced to take down the ship that is the dreams of many. The flying ship is comparable to the titanic which was known as the unsinkable ship. In fact the flying ship in Bolt is even explained to be able to keep afloaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 

>>516
>*That it is sometimes necessary to go against the goals that you set at the beginning

Sorry I hardly read through this before posting

 

>>516
Thanks for the write up, that's actually quite interesting and I never saw the anime in this light before. I can respect it a lot more from that.

I never really felt any nihilism from the anime, it just felt like a world that's not that different from our own and Bolt was helping random people as the story dictates, but the way you word it actually makes a lot of sense since the episode plots don't really matter it's more about Bolt trying to solve problems to fulfill the dreams of the people he helps.

 

>>518
I think what you're saying about the setting being similar to the real world is exactly right and partly why I believe it is nihilistic.

Because even though the anime takes place in a futuristic world, that at first seems different from our own, somehow its essence is similar enough to the our real world to be boring. But I think this is part of what gives EatMan a nihilistic vibe. It's not trying to take the viewer on an otherworldly adventure, rather the adventure is so founded in reality and humanity that it gets repetitive quick. Maybe part of Eatman's message is that there are no fairy tale like adventures out there, only harsh reality and dreams which deny reality's harshness. Bolt himself says that only someone who has eaten metal while crying can truly know what adventure tastes like.

 

Truth be told when it comes to these kinds of shonen reading the Manga is the best idea. Lots of things lost in transcription.

Specially with those early digital EFX that are frankly puke inducing. Fascinating that stuff like this was contemporary to SE Lain's pure digital production.



 

Oro !

 




 

The 17th of this month marked 13 years since the passing of the legendary Osamu Dezaki.

Have any of you been watching his anime lately? I started the Treasure Island anime a few days ago and I'm really enjoying it so far. Though obviously more aimed towards kids, his expert directing as well as the impressive animation and background art make it a really great watch.

 

>>2668
Still working through Ashita no Joe. I had a year of watching so much Dezaki anime and loving it all, finished Oniisama E and since then I can never finish the ones I start for some weird reason (One Pound Gospel being the exception).

 

>>2668
I love his work so much. Haven't seen anything by him recently but I remember posting a bunch about him on this board before in another very similar thread >>1018

Not trying to take away from yours OP but since I haven't seen anything from him since Gamba all my thoughts are there.

 

>>2671
Ah, I probably could have just posted in that thread, but I didn't scroll that far.
Just trying to rekindle some conversation on this board since it's been pretty quiet as of late.
I think the most recent post when I made this thread was 5 days old.



 


 

>>199
Good thread but would probably fit better on 4chan.

 

>>200
noes, I'm glad this is here!



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