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I thought of a very clever answer for this thread, but I forgot what it was

 


 




 

What are your favorites that are in DIRE DESPERATE need of new remastered releases. The more trapped on older dead media they are the better.
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>>3566
Never really got the feeling that Criterion cares that much about animation in general.

>>3568
Arguably Oshii's masterpiece. It's visually engaging and experimental in a good way. One of the interesting things about animation as a medium is that the creators are free to take it in any direction they want. Gosenzo-sama Banbanzai! gives you a stage play where the camera/viewer can be placed anywhere, and no special effect is out of reach. Plus, on top of that it's genuinely really funny. Tie it all together with animation from some of the best animators of the time (hashimoto, ohira, iso, ect.), and you have one fantastic OVA.

 

>>3572
>Never really got the feeling that Criterion cares that much about animation in general.

That is correct. They're kind of snobby and high brow and seem to think that animation is beneath them, or not part of their purview. They did release that Akira Laserdisc in the 90s, but that was before Akira had any good home releases that weren't just cropped VHS tapes.

You could make the case that there's a lot of overlooked and ignored Soviet, European, and Japanese, animation and some need restoration and care. They would have be high brow to fit the Criterion brand though.

I definely think we need a criterion for anime though.

 

>>3573
>I definitely think we need a criterion for anime though.
It would be nice. Feels like studios have rather random output with HD masters for their older anime. You might get one that's very well done and then another not long after that seemingly uses an older, worse mastering process. If Criterion were to remaster an anime you'd need something artsy, important, and I suppose something with no HD transfer or one done very poorly.The hardest part would be to decide which anime are the most culturally significant or important. For me, the one that leaps to mind instantly is the End of Evangelion. The TV show had an over all fantastic HD transfer sans episode 16, but the movie's transfer looks like an abortion. I feel that lots of films made during the transition to CG effects and digipaint suffer from this. While not entirely pre 2000s, Satoshi Kon's films are all perfect candidates. I did see that Perfect Blue was supposedly getting a new and better remaster, but the previews I saw did not impress me.

 

i love wap chan. i can just open a random thread and find a new anime to watch.

 

>>3582
make a video essay about them too you fucking newfren homo



 

Are there any sites out there in the depths of the Japanese web anything like comics.org that list what mangas ran in what magazine for a given issue?
Ones that are more specific and only list a few magazines are fine. Any sort of listings going into the publication history of magazines besides Shounen Jump would be useful.

 

>>3476
Well hey there’s majin bandar, was there ever a manga because I’m aware it had a television series that had 13 episodes with only 3 surviving, didn’t really show off all much



 

Didn't expect Trigun to be this bad. These production values are on par with those Lost Universe webms. Surprised there was no backlash against it and that the show is remembered fondly in spite of this.
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>>777
I hear that Trigun is one of the worse ones. I mean I watched Lain and Evangelion too to add to the list of tv anime but none looked this bad.

 

>>778
>I hear that Trigun is one of the worse ones
Trigun doesn't have that reputation, where are you hearing this?

 

>>777
Naw, I can think of plenty that are well animated most of the time. I haven't seen Trigun but 98-02 had more sketchily animated shows than before just because they started producing so much more so quickly. You go watch late 80s TV anime in comparison and generally things are much better animated.

 

>>771
Sure it's not a masterpiece by any means as far as the animation/production goes. But it's by no means a bad anime series. I have plenty of fond memories watching Trigun late at night on Adult Swim back in the day.

 

I didn't think it was bad at all. Hell it was overall pretty good but it is one of those shows I can't go back to after reading the manga which was way better. The only reason I am offended by Lost Universe is that we got an ugly CG Gaiden instead of the proper adaptation we could have finally got.



 

>Moshi Moshi, Ghostu Suipa Mikami desu?
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>>398
She got them back and rejoined the team as a necromancer.

 

>>386
I think I’ve mentioned this before but I watched this around October last year, I thought she was so adorable no wonder she ended up on various popularity rankings in animage magazines.

 

I liked this scene.

 

>>3461
Same

 

>>398
Would've been a better ending than all the power tripping.



 

Saw this on Heyuri. Would you say this is true?
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>>906
Not to mention astro boy was made in 1952 which besides GORT was before most famous 50s movie robots. I think anon is overthinking on What kind of influences were impacted on the industry, entertainment is entertainment.

 

>>906
>>907
But I think you're both being a little inattentive here. Anon doesn't actually mention the '50s or anything around the Astro Boy era, so debunking his point in light of that is kind of useless.
He seems to be zeroing in on the '80s as the 'start' of modern anime since some still present tendencies first appeared in that era, and from there poses the hypothesis that it was inspired by b-movies from the '50s through to the '70s, which would probably mean all that stuff that came after Astro Boy.
It seems like he's saying something like: "The generation of creators who grew up between the 50s and 80s grew up watching sci-fi b-movies and sex comedies and thus took inspiration from them in developing the newer wave of anime starting from the '80s onward, and that influence has lingered on until today"

 

>>908
I would broaden it to American pop media in general, given 80s American action films and Bruce Lee defining FotNS plus other male-demo anime, or the cultural juggernaut of Star Wars showing up in everything. Hell, the homage culture Dirty Pair and Trek has is well documented by Trekkies.

 

>>908
I can kind of agree with what you're saying
but still meh. Most of these comparisons hes talking about don't work very well. It's obvious this guy only watches ecchi shit because he treats all of anime like it's only ecchi. He mentions sex comedies, yet explicit sex in anime hasn't been around since the 80s and even the explicit ones were stuff like Wicked City, not comedies. Nowadays the only anime comparable to what hes talking about is ecchi where the most you get is implications and some boobs if youre lucky. Even shonen doesn't go beyond some innuendos or panty shots at most. And I'd say the majority of modern service (that isn't ecchi) is more comparable to stuff before the 80s. I can remember panty shots in 70s stuff like Lupin, Galaxy Express, Gundam, and Ashita no Joe to name some. Anime has always had that light, gratuitous side that isn't ecchi or sex comedy stuff. If anything, the 80s was just a phase of that side and modern ecchi may be inspired by that, but definitely not anime as a whole, which has always been gratuitous (Tezuka was into animal girls ffs). Then there's the examples he provides to support his claims. First, Kimagure Orange Road. Well even that doesn't match because Madoka (the character hes talking about) is a huge anomaly as an anime love interest. She is nothing like your typical modern day anime love interest and so to say shes proof of the connection is negligent because she doesn't even match the typical anime love interest. His second example is how much cyberpunk anime is based off of Streets of Fire. Again, anime has been doing scifi since before B movies (Astro Boy for example). As well as this, cyberpunk anime doesn't exist anymore nor many remnants of it, that could just as easily be remnants of the pre 80s scifi boom. But even in the 80s his claims don't hold very well. You could use pretty much any Western scifi movie as a comparison to 80s anime and, in this case, there exist much better comparisons that don't fit the B movie criteria. For example, Mad Max 2, Blade Runner, 2001 Space Odyssey, etc.. Is it more likely that cyberpunk was inspired by Blade Runner (1981) or Streets of Fire (1984)? Well if you cherrypick Megazone 23 and Bubblegum Crisis as the whole of 80s anime (which he does) it's known that Streets of Fire inspired these two, but even these Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 

I'm not so good at sorting thru and putting down my own opinions here, but I think The Notenki Memoirs by Yasuhiro Takeda is a good book to read, for insight: He was a founding member of Gainax and grew up in the era under discussion. Here's an excerpt:

"When I was a kid, I don’t think I was quite the geek I am now.As far back as I can remember, television was always a part of home life. The same goes for comic magazines like Shonen Magazine and Shonen Sunday, which made their debut in this world long before I did. Since much of the anime and manga of my formative years leaned toward sci-fi themes and settings, that genre became (and remains) my favorite. I was drawn in by the strange and powerful lure of futuristic stories—the future seemed so sublime, and filled me with longing. For a kid in those days, this kind of thinking was par the course. But there were plenty of fun things to do besides watching TV and reading comics, and I certainly didn’t spend my entire childhood wrapped up in anime and manga.In fact, there was really only one difference between other kids of that era and myself—I liked reading novels. I’ve already forgotten what sparked that interest, but it was in the fourth grade or so when I became an avid reader. While other kids were running around the schoolyard, I was running back and forth to the library. (I don’t think it was a time when you bought the books you liked—if you wanted to read one, you just went to the library.) I was hooked on sci-fi and mystery. Of course, the stories I read were adapted for gradeschoolers, and I simply devoured them. To name a few, there were titles like Lupin and Sherlock Holmes, and authors like Arthur C. Clarke⁠⁠3 and Robert A. Heinlein⁠⁠4—sci-fi novelists from the mid-’60s, whose works were considered required reading. That’s not to say I didn’t read other works. I explored almost every aisle of the library… with the result that I became a library assistant by the time I was in the fifth grade, simply because I could stay there for hours on end. All I ever wanted was just a little more time to read. Looking back on it now, my only regret is that I never sought out anyone to share in my little world."

Interesting to note that he namedrops Robert Heinlein as 'required reading', so maybe the Heyuri guy isn't so far off as he seems. But I'd have to read the whole book to really get it.

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In response to >>1262 I'll make a brief post about why colors were so damned good in cel animation versus modern productions.

1. Paint

They're quite literally using real world paints on plastic cels to photograph so the colors are much better quality and more realistic.

2. Film stock

They were shot on 16mm or 35mm film, and film stock had strived for decade for rich strong colors and strong contrasts. Most television anime was shot in 16mm film, and 35mm used for theatrical films or television OPs.

Then they shifted to digital formats, and with them digital color spaces and palettes. More washed out, lacking contrast, overly bright, like there's a haze or some kind of bright light out. This is also an issue for live action productions.
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>>3449
true!

 

>>3464
1997 was actually a bad year for Japan's economy. 1992 saw the economic bubble of the late 80s burst, and had already started causing a slow decline, and then 1997 saw the Asian financial market crash, which damaged Japan's economy even more. Even the mainstream Japanese music industry, which saw a boom when people could no longer afford houses and other big picture stuff, so would spend more on consumer goods, saw its peak right at 1998 when Sakura began to air.

NHK, Kodansha, and Sogo Vision funded Cardcaptor Sakura, not Clamp themselves. As a Kodansha manga serialized in Nakayoshi they would probably be the primary rights holders, and would be giving Clamp some royalties from any money made off of the franchise. Not that Clamp didn't have any say over how the anime went, but it's not like it was their project.

>Keep in mind, these were purely japanese studios with japanese employees whose profession was to make japanese anime.


Massive outsourcing to Asia for lower level jobs like inbetweening was already extremely common by then, Gundam Wing for example would start with layouts and rough key animation from a Japanese Studio (Dove) and then all the animation would be finished up over in Asia by their overseas subsidiaries.

>Then japan slowly spiraled into a forever recession and lots of the older experienced studios shut down or consolidated.


Like who? Sunrise, Toei, Tatsunoko, Pierrot, Deen, Ashi Pro, Madhouse, Gainax, Production IG, AIC, OLM etc, all the big established studios of the 90s persisted into the 2000s. It was more marginal studios like E&G that died out in the early 2000s.

The answer to why Cardcaptor Sakura looks as good as it does, is likely just because Madhouse gave it a good schedule and good staff. They also did X 1999 a few years earlier, which looks phenomenal as well.

 

>>3467
>Cont

Double checked.

>NHK, Kodansha, and Sogo Vision funded Cardcaptor Sakura, not Clamp themselves. As a Kodansha manga serialized in Nakayoshi they would probably be the primary rights holders, and would be giving Clamp some royalties from any money made off of the franchise. Not that Clamp didn't have any say over how the anime went, but it's not like it was their project.


Looks like Clamp actually did contribute costume designs and screenplays for the anime. Still, I'm not finding any evidence of them being on the production committee for it.

 

>>3464
A little off topic but kinda wanted to clarify a few things.
>Last good decade
The economy is still pretty high all things considered, not exactly bubble era tier but still in the top 5 GDP surprisingly.
>Outsourcing to other countries
That’s has been done since the 60s, the golden bat anime for instance had some work done in korea which is also why it had a following there but couldn’t say it was Japanese. Also sunrise did some stuff as well, not as much but then all those Korean bootleg knockoffs begin to make much more sense as to where they got the character designs from lol

 

>>3338
Good news. A way to replicate them faithfully digitally was found by using Blender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSkk5MDmfz0
Unfortunately, it'd have to take for someone to do an incredibly viral and famous animation for Japanese animation studios to adopt a similar software.



 

Rem Ayanokoji a cute
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anyone know a way to find the pilot episode?

 

>>3662

Its on archive.

 

>>3664
Sorry I meant the 22 minute hentai one released by Aubec.

 

>>3671
Nevermind I found it, thanks anon

 

>>3662
It used to be on Youtube until a couple of years ago.

I found it funny that there was a time where the "canon" version wasn't easily found on YT but the TOS-violating original was.



 

Remember JJBA OVA?

 

>>576
I need to check out but I have too many things on my plate at the moment.
I heard the D'arby fight in particular is amazing.

 

>>576
I remember it being pretty good, only disappointment was the Vanilla Ice fight getting truncated, but otherwise I can appreciate it for being an alternate take on the original story. In a way it makes it feel more similar to parts 1 & 2 (which are my personal favorites), with it's brisker pace and a focus on fights that drive the story forward. OST is pretty awesome too.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhj4P1yuiEMzIgcXk1rvRYVXsyriQ8XnK

That reminds me, I never finished reading the part 3 manga so I should probably get on that.

 

>>578
I think this episode was directed by Satoshi Kon

 

>>576
I never really thought about it honestly, always felt like a "bad" adaptation of Part 3 but I've never actually watched it so I should give it a shot.

Still, wonder how it must've felt for the only Jojo related things someone in the west would know around this time would've probably been this OVA and the PS1/DC game.



 

Did Anno run out of budget (again)?
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>>374
>Kazumi Amano
Her love for the coach was pure and just.

 

>>372
I'm just glad the last episode ended up being made at all considering the amount of other excellent OVAs that just kind of end with no conclusion.
(I think the uncertainty of having enough money to make each episode is why the three last episodes all kind of feel like they could be the last one too, though that's just conjecture on my part)

Anyways, can you imagine the sex with Jung Freud? My God.

 

>>376
Love me some feisty redhead.

 

>>376
h o t!

 

>>372
It was a stylistic choice. Everyone who worked on it says so and are aware of the meme.



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